Drum Brake Spridget Front Whl. Brgs

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Drum Brake Spridget Front Whl. Brgs

Post by VWNate1 »

I need to get a set and i'm pondering converting to tapered roller bearing typ , what say the group ? .

FWIW , I usually prefer ball bearings as they're less rolling resistance and tend to carry heavier loads too but maybe I should change up and be more ' modern' ? :? :o

If I go ball bearings , I'll prolly use 30205 Inner and 30303 outers , Bower BCA or summat like that .

A # 13650 seal , can't find those cool double lipped CR seals anymore dammit :(


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I don't know much about Midgets, but a number of T-Series owners have changed to tapered roller bearings with good results. Still many more on ball bearings than rollers though, so I guess that doesn't help much. I weighed the pros and cons and decided to stay with balls on my TC and MGA. They last practically forever so I didn't see a significant enough advantage to spend the time and money on converting.
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Just convert to bushings, Nate...far fewer moving parts.
Then use the money saved for wax.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
But doing the same thing in a car somehow makes it an "accident".
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?? " bushings ?? :?
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Or, as they say in England, "bushes".
But that could be misunderstood here.
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I *think* I understand , when you say ' bushing ' about a Spridget , I automatically think of the threaded trunnions.... :wtf:
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Post by malcolmr18zoy »

I've never had problems with taper roller bearings, as long as their adjusted properly. This requires some mechanical know how. Ball bearings are easy for the un-informed. Just torque them up. Bushes, well they are a different thing altogether, reaming comes to mind.
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malcolmr18zoy wrote: Bushes, well they are a different thing altogether, reaming comes to mind.
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Thanx all ;

As it turns , I just ordered a set of EOM typ ball bearings ans seals from Doug's British , should be in soon I hope .
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Are we all talking about the same thing? Never heard of wheel bearing being referred to as bushings.
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No, Steve, we're not.
Reread it with an open mind.
Then read it once again with a slightly dirty mind.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
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Sn , Sn, Sn, :D
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O-Kay then ! .

It turns out that ALL Spridgets (and thereby Metropolitasn Nash's) use the SAME front wheel bearings and seals .

Moss Motors sells nifty service kits including both bearings , the grease seal , a tiny packet of bearing grease and even the 5/32X2" cotter pin ! pretty nice . less than 1/2 the price the bearing house wanted for the outer bearings alone and they wanted me to wait a week or three :hammer: .

This is for original made in Jolley Olde Englande ball typ bearings .

I hope this helps , all I needs do now is check the lug stud threads on my spare hub and I can begin packing & assembling them . :thumbs:
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So, the bearing house would've reamed you.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
But doing the same thing in a car somehow makes it an "accident".
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Kinda got a one track mind there Jimmy :D

Yes , they would have had I let them :lol:

$80.00 for the outer bearing alone ?! :o WTF ? .
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VWNate1 wrote:Kinda got a one track mind there Jimmy
On the contrary, Nate.
Steve, for example, has a one track mind.
Mine, however, is derailed.
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Hey, speak for yourself! :hammer:
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I'm not the one that was stuck on wheel bearings.
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That'd be me :hammer: :thumbs: :bow:

I got the driver's side packed and installed , discovered paper thin lining on one shoe and the lower blind cylinder appears to be weeping a tiny bit :x , hunted around until I found _one_ good (great actually) used shoe and installed it after cleaning the backing plate , adjusters etc. , I'll send my spare set of front shoes to my reliner Monday (he was out of stock to-day)
and hopefully I'll get the other side bearings done before Sunday Next when I need to drive it far away .

I also found pretty much everything I'll need to convert the front drums brakes to disc :thumbs: , I need to get busy on that as I'd like them done by my April 2010 drive to Pheonix . I need to get some custom bushings made for the spindles and rebuild the Midget calipers etc....

Have a good weekend guys ! I'm @ son's house now on his 'puter .
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