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Re: Goodwood Revival 2009

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Ok. The suffering is over. I told you this one was hard.

With 28 examples produced, there is no wonder that this caused some head scratching. And, if you didn't own Bill Emerson's "The Healey Book" you would have passed this car on the grass without notice. I might have done the same except I met the owner of the car as he was jumping up and down when we both happened to stumble upon the Peerless GT at the same time from different directions. It is not too often that you run into another Peerless owner. It is even more unusual that they also own a Healey. At Goodwood, you really had a better chance of finding Elvis, then a Peerless.

He pulled out his tele' and started calling all his car buddies to come over to look at the Peerless (none cared). While he was waiting, we chatted and here is what I learned (his buddies never showed up).

The reason the "1951 Alvis-Healey" is parked in front of the Peerless is because the owner drove it around to show Donna and I. Designed by Gerry Coker (who also penned the Austin Healey 100), using a unique Healey chassis and Alvis 3 litre, the limited production roadster was capable of 100 MPH with good power and had some advanced features for the time; door locks, standard radio and heater and roll up windows. Like most of the Healey's of the time, they were intended for dual use (sport and pleasure). The Alvis-Healey retained the "race" pedals (L-brake - C- gas - R-clutch), so I don't think any examples were imported to the US. Healey was really a specialty provider, so a run of 28 cars was typical run for Healey at the time.

Also in production was the Nash-Healey. Although they look similar they are fundamentally different and do not share the chassis, running gear or any body panels. What they do share is the same coach builder - Panelcraft.

So given that Larry provided the year (correct) and the correct spelling of the most significant part of the make (Healey) I am awarding the full 1.0 point to Larry as he came so close to the target.

Hard to forecast a winner...

Gene - 1
Malcolm - 1
Steve - 1
Larry - 1 (good job...you worked for this one. Besides, Steve stole the Gordon-Keeble from you:)

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The next one might not be as hard, so speed could be the deciding factor.

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Larry Kluss wrote:Okay, Dean, here's my best guess...it's a '51 Nash-Healey Le Mans Alloy Roadster. :)
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Nash-Healey. That sounds like a really good guess. Wish I thought of that!
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Damn. Well, glad to hear I was pretty close. I can't believe they don't share the same body panels. The picture of the Nash-Healey I saw and this car appeared identical except the grille and bumper. With the "Le Mans Alloy" model designation, I thought I had it.
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Rollup windows on a roadster, huh?
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
But doing the same thing in a car somehow makes it an "accident".
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Yep!
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Well, shucks, then a roadster might as well have a roof, too.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
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It does when the top is in place...
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Here is our next challenge... Three pieces on information are needed to score a point.

Name of the car make and model. Also you need to identify the lady ignoring the car. This time the year does not matter for either subjects. Good luck.
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It's a 1950's through 60's Aston-Mercedes 300 coupe with the rare Volvo-inspired wheels. The girl is a Wife 9000 Mark IV running 9 lbs. boost on the SC.
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Excellent guess................ :lol: .... :lol: ......... :lol: ....................but..........................try again:(
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A TVR?. but the logo is wrong. Also looks like some Zagato body
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I think I have two out of three (make and girl) but the model has me stumped.
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Hi Dean,That's a Jensen 541S I think, although the grill looks a little strange. The lady is Veronica Marshall, I went to school with her, wow she's aged well!!
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Darn, I was thinking Jensen-Healey for a short time but not Jensen by itself. :(
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Malcom, I think you're right about the car. I'd say a 1961 Jensen 541S with a 4-litre stright six. The 541R had a funky tilted solid "grille". The woman is of the same vintage, her name is Donna-Rae... :thumbs:
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Ah, yes, Veronica.
She never did tell me her name in the morning.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
But doing the same thing in a car somehow makes it an "accident".
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Jimmy?
You knew her too? I thought I was the only one!
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She apparently decided to give it one more try, which was lucky for me.
Rumor has it that after the two bad experiences, she gave up on men altogether.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
But doing the same thing in a car somehow makes it an "accident".
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Oh my. Best I announce the winner and move on to the next challenge before I get into trouble. Since it took a little bit of a group effort. I am awarding points, to Steve for correctly identifying the wife con-boost, to Malcolm for identifying the make and model and to Larry for pulling it all together.

Here is where we stand.

Gene - 1
Malcolm - 2
Steve - 2
Larry - 2

I'll push out another challenge in the morning before heading back to the UK.

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Hi Dean,
Sorry, I didn't realise that was your wife, I thought you were just having a little fun with a random woman. Oops, that sounds even worse. I'll shut up now.
Look forward to your next challenge.
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Ditto.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
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No worries on the comments...I know I set you guys up.

Sorry I couldn't post another challenge up before I left for the UK last week, but time slipped away. When I did get a chance to get on line, jet lag prevented anything too complicated that wasn't work related. So with the excuses out of the way here is the next challenge. Oh by the way, I did have a chance to go to the Beaulieu Motor Museum. There were some real head scratchers under their roof and a TopGear exhibit for another thread.

Back to our Goodwood challenge:
Identify the make, and model. Be fast this one is easy.:)
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Hi Dean,
Welcome back. I think this is an AC Aceca.
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I knew that one was too easy.

Excellent job Malcolm. These are really great looking cars in the flesh. Not too long ago you could pick these up for next to nothing. Many years ago the guys at Chequered Flag had one in their show room for cheap, but I thought it was overpriced at the time - it needed a headliner. Besides with a transleaf front suspension and straight six, I figured I would have a hard time selling it later as it was "missing" the 289. Wish I knew better.

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I think this one is technically an AC Aceca-Bristol. I am drawing that conclusion from the double badge. Hard to see in the pics, but there is a second badge under the circular AC logo. I am pretty sure that it was there it say "Bristol". I think the Bristol (BMW?) six cylinder was an upgrade.

Score is:
Gene - 1
Malcolm - 3
Steve - 2
Larry - 2

Dean - Back to glassing the Lotus....
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I think that since Malcolm grew up with these cars around him, he has an unfair advantage.
From now one, give him only 1/2 a point if he's right, and minus 1 point if he's even a wee bit wrong.
In baseball, running into someone is apparently a "collision".
But doing the same thing in a car somehow makes it an "accident".
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